When I read this it makes me cross, I have seen media reports that criticise health care systems for failing to prevent disease. Well hello, what more could you do? I totally agree with grandma that you can't cure stupid and I suspect that he is from the "not taking responsibility for ones self" tribe too. My question is am I wrong in wanting to shock him out of his complacency. Would it be unethical to say something like " have you ever seen some one paralised from a stoke, can't walk, talk or wipe their own butt, having to live in a home? We'll thats likly to be where you end up. See if that might wake him up. In a way its about informed concent, people getting the information given in a way they can understand and he didn't understand/or care about the gravity of the info. People are just strange. Im not saying Stella, that I think you should have said my silly sugestion or that I think you didn't do enough. It's him thats at fault but he'll likely pay a very high price.

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