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Old 01-23-2008, 11:26 PM
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My class this semester is "Theoretical Foundations of Nursing Practice" and we were covering the different degrees allowing entry into practice.

In my hospital, there is no difference in job description or payscale between an RN with an ADN and one with a BSN. It got me wondering - does anyone here work for a facility that makes a distinction between an ADN and a BSN?


This is not a ADN vs. BSN issue, I was interested in any differences in practice that may be out there.
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:28 AM
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No distinction for staff nurses. Management and educators are different, however... I believe they must have a bachelor's. I think.
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The hospital I work at used to have a Diploma program attached to it. Which means, that most of the nurses have never worked anywhere else and they are the ones that generally get the promotions.

In entered the ADN and BSN nurses who get paid the same wages as a staff nurse but if you are not one of those nurses that are born in the "diploma program" then the distinction becomes evident. Those are the people they want to have a BSN.

It's a strange brew.

Of course I'm of the belief when they start making a different State Board for Diploma, ADN, and BSN nurses, then and only then should a distinction be made. But then, that's just me.
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If you are a new graduate, the VA (veteran's administration for you non-U.S. folks) starts BSNs at a higher "step" than ADNs. After that, I think it's a matter of how and what you do how quickly you move up the steps and grades
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In Canada we don't have ADN, just Diploma or Degree.

I believe that the difference between the Diploma and Degree is $1.50 and hour. Job descriptions are identical though.
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In the UK you are paid according to the job you do and not your qualifications. We also have just Diploma and Degree though when I was a young slip of a lass I did a certificate level. Of course since then I have studied for both a degree and a masters.

Some jobs which require a higher clinical level of practice also require you to have specific degree / masters level qualifications and then you are paid more to do them.
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At the hospital I work at those with a degree (BN or BScN) get $30 more per pay as an educational bonus.
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At the hospital I work at those with a degree (BN or BScN) get $30 more per pay as an educational bonus.
Holy cow! That really surprises me - that's the first I've heard of such a thing.
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Holy cow! That really surprises me - that's the first I've heard of such a thing.
Me, too. I have heard (although I don't have a link to any source) that it has been proposed at some California Nursing Association-organized hospitals over the years but the union doesn't want it.

Hmmm...I'll have to do some research on that.
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