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Mother Jones, RN
10-10-2007, 10:43 PM
A sexy, handsome movie star who is involved in a motorcycle accident comes into your hospital for treatment, so what do you do? Are you tempted to look at his chart to see what's going on? Apparently some people working at the hospital that took care of George Clooney did just that, and now they are paying the consequences of their actions. It’s confession time: Would you have been tempted to peek to George’s chart, and what do you think should happened to the staff members who broke patient confidentiality by looking at George’s personal medical information?

Jess
10-10-2007, 11:41 PM
I saw this on CNN today! The hospital staff got suspended for peeking at his chart.

I would've definitely not looked at his chart or anyone else's whether they're a movie star or just someone off the street. If that person is not my patient or my nurse's patient, I would not peek...that information is confidential!

"WCBS-TV in New York reported last night that as many as 40 employees, including doctors, were suspended without pay, accused of accessing Clooney's medical records and possibly providing information to the media, a violation of federal law."

I don't get what the hospital staff wanted to do...provide the media his information for money? Say "I read George Clooney's chart?" I really am curious why they peeked at his chart, sure, it's tempting, but come on now...were they expecting to find something shocking and tell the media about it?

Caroline
10-11-2007, 12:54 AM
Awful nice of this particular patient to be so kind as to not want the nurses to be suspended, but I kinda feel there's got to be some kind of precident here.

geenaRN
10-11-2007, 01:40 AM
Wouldn't even be tempted.

Julie
10-11-2007, 04:21 AM
I'd be tempted to look at him, but his chart? Not unless I was directly involved in his care.

Nurse Stella
10-11-2007, 04:52 AM
I'm with you guys. I wouldn't even be tempted to look at the chart. However.... point me to the curtain he's behind!!!! ;)

B.

Mother Jones, RN
10-11-2007, 09:13 AM
I can see you ladies now: Hello, Mr. Clooney, we are here to get you your therapeutic backrub. :love:

geenaRN
10-11-2007, 05:42 PM
Back rub?

Don't nurses do therapeutic bed baths anymore? :highfive:

:whistle:

Nurse Stella
10-11-2007, 09:02 PM
This gives a whole new meaning to the term "Comfort Measures"! :curtsey:

B.

MyOwnWoman
10-11-2007, 09:59 PM
Gotta go with Geena on this one, I'd think after a terrible motorcycle accident he might have some road rash and a soothing bath would be just the thing!

On a serious note though, however tempted one might be, the line was crossed and retribution needed to be distributed. George Clooney may be a great guy and say these employees shouldn't be suspended probably because he has nothing to hide. But the fact remains that IF he had things in his chart (like a past medical history) that he didn't want anyone to know about then he, like me, has the right to his privacy.

Think about this ladies and gentlemen, let's say you were admitted to the hospital you work at with a diagnosis of ( fill in the blank ) Would you want anyone to know?

Julie
10-12-2007, 02:52 AM
I completely agree. If we have reached the day where celebrity is more important than the confidentiality of our patients then it really is a sad day for us all.

Polaris
10-15-2007, 02:22 PM
This is the exact reason I don't seek care at the hospital I work for. I drive quite a ways out of my way to get to a different health care system. And if I'm ever treated in my ER for any reason I will not be giving them any type of information.

Your health history is sacred. It should only be between you and your doctor.

We had a nurse suspended for looking at her father's chart last year. This is a serious issue. If you can't keep your nose out of someone's chart just because they are famous/your dad/your daughter's best friend's uncles aunt's cat's adoptive parent...... then you probably shouldn't be in the medical field.

Jess
10-15-2007, 07:26 PM
Great posts everyone. So are there any new details about this?

jojodow
10-17-2007, 12:20 AM
No...wouldn't care about the chart.

HIM...on the other hand...I would be asking his assigned Nurse if she needed any help....maybe bribing him/her a little to let me help.

Or maybe just lingering outside in the hall....you know...helping.

lol:pound:

Mrs.Rollins
11-14-2007, 04:24 PM
Of course I would be tempted, at least just a little. But I wouldn't do it. I believe that what sets a good nurse apart is often not what she thinks, but how she chooses to act.

Julie
11-14-2007, 06:07 PM
How right you are mrs rollins. We all have a choice.

Welcome to nursing Voices by the way :)

P/J
11-15-2007, 07:06 PM
As a guy- Was the bike alright.

Might be temped to peek behind the curtain, but not the chart/notes. I might be interested though in what was wrong, as in broken bones and treatment, and a look at his x-rays, but as a student I can ask to have a nurse run through them with me on an educational basis (I like fractures).

He is a celebrity...So what. I have seen enough footballers, hokey players, singers, sportsmen/women around. I usually point them out to who ever I am with and then go back to what I am doing, they don't want to be mugged by some fan when they are trying to shop/look at art/eat.

The hospital should have given the notes to a senior doctor/nurse to handle so there was no way people could get access if not involved in the case.

KimRN
11-22-2007, 04:16 AM
I would never, ever have looked in Geoge Clooney's chart. I couldn't care less about the man, he's just a regular person like everyone else and is not a big deal just because he is injured.

Jeff Goldblum, on the other hand, now he's a potential patient just waiting for a theraputic bedbath!

(Pardon me while I regain my professionalism...is it hot in here?)

storknurse05
12-28-2007, 11:33 AM
Something like this happened at my organization not too long ago. We treat the members of a prominent MLB team here, and a star member of the team came in for a widely publicized surgery. There were people looking up surgical notes and lab values that had no business doing so. Nurses on a variety of units, pharmacists, Doctors in varying specialties, nutritionists, and people in registration. DUH people...computer charting leaves a trail!!!! Beside it being wrong and illegal, you will get caught! It's stupid. They all got warnings, but the message was clear (and this was about 6 years ago) and I was a student at the time, so I took it to heart! Never, ever, ever, would I look up anyone's chart unless I have a reason to be there. We get staff that come in and deliver on our unit and it's the same way...don't look.:curtsey:

DisappearingJohn
12-28-2007, 03:16 PM
Have you seen what happened out here in Arizona the other day? A resident surgeon decided to waste his entire career by taking a cell-phone picture of a patient's privates (and the "HotRod" tattoo thereon) and show it off to a bunch of coworkers, one of whom immediately told the attending..., and, unfortunately, someone else told the local newspaper. The poor patient has been on every TV News show, and the resident is now unemployed, and probably unemployable....:bawling:

Apeman
12-28-2007, 05:20 PM
I worked at Mens Clinic which specialises in male sexual health. The policy there was that if I saw one of my patients outside the clinic I may not greet them as they may not have told their partner that they were receiving treatment because they couldn't get "it" up. In a smallish town we had over 6000 patients so it often happened that you would bump into someone while out shopping.

My then wife got use to me not introducing people who did greet me but later saying "work". She didn't need a reply.

Patient confidentiality is one of the most important parts of our patient advocate role. George Clooney, Paris Hilton, The President who ever.

mousie
12-29-2007, 09:42 PM
Can't say I'd be bothered about looking at his chart - (maybe yours are more interesting in the US than ours!) but I'd be first in the queue to make him a cup of tea!

I work in a town where quite a few famous people live and one of our consultants is the absolute worst when anyone like that comes in - she's straight in there!

geenaRN
12-30-2007, 10:21 PM
Can't say I'd be bothered about looking at his chart - (maybe yours are more interesting in the US than ours!) but I'd be first in the queue to make him a cup of tea!

I work in a town where quite a few famous people live and one of our consultants is the absolute worst when anyone like that comes in - she's straight in there!

Hm... I don't recall hearing about docs getting slammed for looking in charts. Just nurses. Why doesn't she get caught and reprimanded?

texasnurse07
01-11-2008, 09:36 AM
Cardinal rule #1 of healthcare, "Don't dip in other people's kool-aid".

Those people deserved to be disciplined. Their actions were unprofessional and uncalled for.

On occasion, my hospital gets "high profile" patients. And honestly, I hope that I never have to take care of one. There is too much risk involved and its not worth losing your job or possibly your license over.

NurseSean
01-11-2008, 08:03 PM
oh you girls!

Worse than men with the dirty talk!:aetsch:

Of course I'd be tempted, but I'm pretty darn sure I could resist...

I'm tempted to break a lot of laws, but the punishments tend to curb my enthusiasm sufficiently. I would have way too much to lose just for a peak at a chart.

KimRN
01-12-2008, 05:26 PM
oh you girls!

Worse than men with the dirty talk!:aetsch:

Of course I'd be tempted, but I'm pretty darn sure I could resist...

I'm tempted to break a lot of laws, but the punishments tend to curb my enthusiasm sufficiently. I would have way too much to lose just for a peak at a chart.


:dancing2:Caught red-handed!:dancing2:

:curtsey:

MyOwnWoman
01-13-2008, 12:17 PM
Cardinal rule #1 of healthcare, "Don't dip in other people's kool-aid".

Those people deserved to be disciplined. Their actions were unprofessional and uncalled for.

On occasion, my hospital gets "high profile" patients. And honestly, I hope that I never have to take care of one. There is too much risk involved and its not worth losing your job or possibly your license over.

See how much you've learned already? Morals....a trait not all nurses have, but should.