View Full Version : non-nurses in charge of RNs

07-08-2007, 06:28 PM
I need your input. I work in the clinical practice division of a hospital. We have 12 physicians that each have thier own RN to support their practice, mostly by telehealth methods. What we lack is a nurse manager. Our VP thinks it is unnecessary. So instead we have 2 administrative people with no college degrees making decisions on the daily activities. The nurses are not asked for input and then we are told what to do without discussion. There is no opportunity for education. We almost never have nurse meetings. The other nurses are afraid of bringing up ideas for fear of being brushed off or given unuseful advice. Kinda like the prisioner of war mentality. The main reason I stay is because I have worked with the same MD for eight years and he is fantastic. I also have great relationships with my patients. Please give your opinion.

Mother Jones, RN
07-08-2007, 07:03 PM
I understand why you are upset. The nurses need to stick together and talk to the VP about this situation, but short of that, have you thought about talking to the doctor you work with for his/her help? I bet this situation is all about saving money.


kate loving shenk
07-09-2007, 06:24 PM
seems like to me, that the nurses there need to join together, certainly in a non-threatening way, and advocate for their need for ongoing input!!

MJ's suggestion to approach the physician you work with/for may be a good place to start.

"The other nurses are afraid of bringing up ideas for fear of being brushed off or given unuseful advice."

Is this true?

Can you absolutely know that it's true?

Unexamined assumptions run our lives until we decide to examine them--simple as that.

good luck with facing the elephant in the room!!

Christopher Dallman
07-11-2007, 01:30 PM
Get together with the other nurses and work out a business proposal on the lines of having a nurse as administrator will save money, as they will know the clinical area and needs far better than an untrained civilian. If you can show that your way is better value for money, the management will jump at it.