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jojodow 09-24-2007 08:33 PM

Oink Oink?
 
I came across this news article.

CPR more affective with Abdominal thrusts? Wow, what about the Risk for Aspiration from vomiting? Maybe Pigs don't vomit stomach contents like Humans do.

Still seems crazy to me.
:loco:

Jess 09-24-2007 10:09 PM

I read this in the newspaper a few days ago and the picture was what really caught my attention. I'm not too sure if this is the same picture, but this article has one:

http://medgadget.com/archives/2007/0...developed.html

What a weird procedure. I don't think this "new" procedure will catch on but I guess we'll all just have to wait and see. Very interesting indeed.

jojodow 09-25-2007 07:48 PM

I notice it doesn't mention Aspiration risks.

I would think that would be a key issue especially if the patient arrests shortly after eating.

All stomach contents could get pushed into the esophagus blocking any venatlation efforts.

I'm all for a new and better way of doing CPR but I would like to see an article or study where that is addressed. Especially since they haven't actually tried this on humans yet.
:dontknow:

Mother Jones, RN 09-26-2007 12:24 AM

Go figure. One day the experts tells us one thing, and then they change their minds and tell us something else. :dancing2: It's crazy.

MyOwnWoman 09-26-2007 07:35 PM

Abdominal Thrusts
 
The newest guidelines for choking in a conscious patient is still the heimlick maneuver (upward abdominal thrusts). If the patient becomes unconscious, the new guide line is look in the mouth and sweep IF you see something, give two breaths after positioning the face and then do CPR. Abdominal thrusts are NO LONGER given in an unconscious patient.

Jess 09-26-2007 07:52 PM

I just took CPR a few days ago to recertify and we never mentioned abdominal thrusts at all. However, CPR has changed a bit from last year. It's now 30 chest compressions, 2 breaths and we don't check for pulse anymore unless it's rescue breathing.

KimRN 09-30-2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother Jones, RN (Post 1442)
Go figure. One day the experts tells us one thing, and then they change their minds and tell us something else. :dancing2: It's crazy.

Yeah, I'm afraid if I have to do CPR under these new guidelines, I'LL be the one having a heart attack! Yikes! The pendulum swings one way and then the other.

Pretty soon we'll be tickling feet and defibrillating through the upper thigh.

Either way, if you need CPR, you're in baaaaaaaad shape! :sheep:


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