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Old 09-15-2007, 01:31 PM
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Exclamation During clinical, does it kind of feel like nursing staff vs. students?

So during first year when I was at clinical and it kind of felt like it was nursing staff vs. students! Do you guys feel something like that when you're at clinical?

I know there are some amazing nurses, but some nurses are kind of mean to student nurses and totally act like we're stupid! Yes, I know we were only first years, but the whole point of being at clinical is to learn! Sometimes I wanted to be like "Look, we are the future, if you want to work less hours, treat us with respect and we are smart. Help us when we ask questions and we are still learning. Sheesh!"

It's like, the only reason they know we're there is when we buy them donuts/cookies on the last day of clinical to kind of say "Thanks for everything!"

What has your experience been like with the nursing staff?
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:35 PM
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It sounds to me like a another case of "Nursing eating their young." To an older nurse who hasn't schooled herself for awhile, new nurses may be a little intimidating. (I know, kinda surprising huh?) Nursing students know all the "new stuff," while the older nurses may just know what they've done for years.

I like it when we get nursing students because it forces me to look up medications that I give every day, because I make sure they know what they are giving before they give it and why which means I have to know.

During clinicals is also a good time to practice your psych skills that you should be learning. For instance in stead of saying, "let me show you how we do it at school," how about saying, "You've probably seen this technique a million times, would you mind watching me to see if I'm doing it correctly?" Quess what happens....a relationship is born.
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:04 PM
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I know exactly what you're saying MyOwnWoman. However, there are some nurses that expect nursing students to know everything, which is kind of intimidating.
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Old 09-16-2007, 10:50 AM
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It sounds to me like a another case of "Nursing eating their young." To an older nurse who hasn't schooled herself for awhile, new nurses may be a little intimidating. (I know, kinda surprising huh?) Nursing students know all the "new stuff," while the older nurses may just know what they've done for years.

I like it when we get nursing students because it forces me to look up medications that I give every day, because I make sure they know what they are giving before they give it and why which means I have to know.

During clinicals is also a good time to practice your psych skills that you should be learning. For instance in stead of saying, "let me show you how we do it at school," how about saying, "You've probably seen this technique a million times, would you mind watching me to see if I'm doing it correctly?" Quess what happens....a relationship is born.
There is a good point being made here. I worked in a facility where it seemed like the new grads were "da bomb" and acted like they knew everything under the sun (very unusual situation, I know) and would never listen to the older nurses' advice.

Perhaps it's because the older nurses treated the younger ones like they were amoebas on fleas.

It all boils down to one word: respect.

And staff needs to remember what it was like to be a nursing student. Geeze, if I knew then what I know now.......
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:07 PM
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Respect is definitely what is lacking in some of the nurses I've met! I hope this year will be much better for me. Some nurses don't really care much for student nurses, it's like, we're just random people invading his/her space. They don't even ask how we're doing sometimes and they're all that. But I do think that some nurses think students are like that too! That we're kind of annoying and bossy and lazy and just take up the staff room space, haha. That's why my classmates and I always go to the hospital cafeteria or something, to give the nurses their room.
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:04 AM
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I never cease to be amazed at how quickly some nurses forget what it is like to be a student, and often even how it is to be a brand new RN. It is so important for those of us who have been qualified for a while to listen to our more junior colleagues, to help nurture them, to teach and to support them. It is also important that we recognise that learning is lifelong. I have been qualifed for over 20 years but most certainly do not know it all!
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:53 AM
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I am new enough out of school (almost 3 years now - yikes!!) that I remember the nurses who treated the students like inconveniences that they had to work around. I beileive this was due mostly to their own personal burned-out state of mind.

As an RN (or Real Nurse as we used to say in school) I go out of my way to be nice to student nurses, and try to provide them with learning opportunities. They deserve it. Nursing school is freakin hard!
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:46 AM
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Thanks PixelRN, I wish every nurse was like that!

One of the older nurses actually told my instructor to "get your student nurses back into the lab, they have no idea what they're doing."

Of course, I still dislike that nurse a lot and it's like, "Hello! This was our first clinical and our first time in the hospital and, etc......" That really was rude and we all disliked that nurse a lot at the end of our clinical. Grr...
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I'm not saying you are, I'm not saying your not, but it is important for student nurses to be confident in their practice. Students from my class have generally got good reports back from clinical placements as we know what we are doing. We also use our educators when we know something is going to take us some time to do, so we are not holding up our nurse buddy. I can't blame a nurse being impatient when something that they can do in 5 min takes me 10 at the start.

My only advice is to know your stuff well, if you don't, then ask at the start not a few days later. Give nurses no reason to look down on you, they all know that you are still learning and they can help in your learning, but they are not there to teach you, that is your educators job (and they get paid for it, unlike your buddy nurse).

Our biggest problem is the argument over hospital trained and university trained nurses!
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:11 AM
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P/J - I think that is really good advice. It seems like there are always going to be nurses who think that students are a pain to deal with. may as well make it as easy as possible for them b/c like you said, they're not getting paid for their extra work.

A little mutual understanding always helps the situation.
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