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Old 11-14-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default How do you feel about your fellow students?

Have you formed close bonds with your fellow students, or do you find yourself feeling isolated from the group much of the time?

I ask because while I like almost all of my fellow classmates, I get angry at the way some of them DO NOT take this seriously. They don't study, they don't put effort and deep thought into their care plans, they don't work hard in clinicals, and they're not there for the right reasons (as in, they just want a big paycheck but don't truly want to serve others). It's frustrating to work as hard as I do and watch others behave this way. It also makes me angry because they have taken someone's spot who desperately wants to be there.

Does anyone else have this problem?
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:09 PM
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Well I think you would have not liked me very much, then

I wouldn't say that I didn't take school seriously, but I didn't usually study, did the bare minimum to get by (I was very complete and thorough, just didn't go above and beyond). I'm sure I worked hard in clinicals, though. How could you not?

What is "not working hard" in clinicals?? How can one possibly be lazy in those and not have it reflected on their grade?

Get used to it, though. After you graduate you'll get to work with nurses who are the same way. Continue to be a good example!
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:21 PM
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Well I think you would have not liked me very much, then

I wouldn't say that I didn't take school seriously, but I didn't usually study, did the bare minimum to get by (I was very complete and thorough, just didn't go above and beyond). I'm sure I worked hard in clinicals, though. How could you not?

What is "not working hard" in clinicals?? How can one possibly be lazy in those and not have it reflected on their grade?

Get used to it, though. After you graduate you'll get to work with nurses who are the same way. Continue to be a good example!
I guess by "not working hard" I mean not doing everything they're supposed to be doing for their patients: turning comatose patients every 2 hours, providing oral hygiene, not performing full assessments, etc. and all usually while documenting that they did. The attitude is that no one will know the difference, so what does it matter? It drives me crazy to see someone who isn't providing good care and isn't developing their clinical skills, yet is passing to the next level each and every time.

I have to be honest and say that my instructors are ultimately to blame for this. We've tried to tell them (myself and the other students who are honest and hard-working), and some things they've seen with their own eyes. But they just push them on through the system, and it upsets me. I don't think you should eat your young, but sometimes a little tough love protects us all.

Sorry for the rant.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:02 PM
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Don't be sorry!

Ranting is good. Cathartic and all that.

Sorry to hear that your fellow students aren't performing well. Hopefully some other students can give you advice!
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I was very close to my classmates, and we all had to work our butts off, or else we were kicked out of the nursing program. Poor grades meant a one-way ticket home. We all lived together in a dorm at the hospital. We had no life other than working at the hospital or reading our books. I guess times are changing.
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:45 AM
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You would be amazed with the stories that we hear about the other universities, like students that won't shower patients or handle bed pans. We were assigned 2 pt this semester and are supposed to do all the care (with observations by a RN). We heard of a few students that picked day 2 post op patients and left them all day as there was nothing to do for them all day. Our students decided that we would just take on more patients instead of just our two.

It will all catch up with the students in the end.

We did a short course last week and the nurse who took us for it (not from our uni) told us that she has failed students on their last placement due to unsafe working practices, and required the student to repeat the placement again (another 21 days at $50 per day to be paid by the student)

With the study, some students just 'get' nursing, they understand how it all works and as a result they don't need to study as much. I need as much study as I can get in some fields, others I don't study much at all and still get the marks. Let your fellow students do what they want, it is no concern of yours when you have enough to do yourself.

We are divided into groups which change every semester for our clinical groups, I personal get along with most people but sure they are clicky groups, and generally it is the younger students which cause most of the problems (class of graduate and undergraduate entry, so the ages range from 19 - 45).
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:07 PM
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I had an amazing group of classmates and a tough school. The bad ones always stood out and I think maybe only 1-2 people actually graduated when they probably shouldn't have.

My strength was in clinicals but I didn't study 24/7. I was a crammer and it worked for me so I may have appeared to be "not as serious" as some. I made it through with a B average and passed the NCLEX the first and only time so I think I'm no different then the classmate who studied everyday and lived and breathed nursing school. I think I just had more fun in Nursing School.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:40 PM
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I really feel like many of our problems are a bit unique to our first-year instructors. However, the second year will be with an entirely different batch of instructors who are notorious for not putting up with nonsense; in fact, the attrition rate for second-years at our school is nearly 10% higher than first-year.

What other people are or aren't willing to get out of the experience is their own business, I suppose, but it affects me when I'm forced to partner with them in a clinical setting and they don't carry their weight. And, admittedly, it irritates me that there were a lot of people who wanted to get in and didn't. It's like, take your opportunity and run with it! You are so fortunate to have gotten this far, so make it count! You know: nosy, intrusive, mother-hen stuff like that.

Thanks for all the ears, guys.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:02 AM
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I love my classmates, but at some point I also hate some of them=)!! they're all smart, which is why they manage to be in the top class ( we were assigned in sections depending on our grades/average) however, I think there really are people who are not that responsible enough to do their duties, especially during groupworks!
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